wheelerboy12

few suspension related questions,

After a few days of searching i cant come up with a company (other then OME) that has a 2" lift height spring, wondering if anyone knew of any, or if someone knows of a company that will make custom height springs that are maybe 20-40% stiffer, Or if im stuck with just using BB spacers, and If i am stuck using the BB is there a company that has stock height springs that are also 20-30% stiffer.

Condensed:
1: anyone sell 2" lift springs that are 20-40% stiffer? or is there a company that can make them?
2: if not, is there a company that sells or makes stock height springs that are 20-40% stiffer?

Next up, id like to ditch the stock arms, my question, is if at 2-2.5" will fully adjustable short arms ride good? can a long arm kit be ran at that height? maybe custom length arms, Whatever gets it handling and riding the best, good flex is always a plus, and at that height would adjustable track bars be a benefit?

Condensed:
3: 2-2.5" lift, fully adjustable short arms? can a long arm kit be ran at that height?
4: custom length arms?
5: Adjustable track bars at 2-2.5"?


Thanks in advanced

Bustedback

Adjustable short arm should work with a 2" lift. I don't know of anyone that make stiffer stock springs, or stiffer lift springs. Why do you want stiffer springs?
A cheaper alternative to aftermarket control arms would be a swap to WJ arms. They're a lot stronger than the tinfoil ZJ arms.

wheelerboy12

Yea for the last hour I've been looking at short arms, im thinking thats where ill end up in the short term if I decide I even need longer/adjusted arms, if stock arms work ill upgrade to WJ OR ill just make my own custom length short arms so they will be perfect for my set up with poly bushings on each side

My need for stiffer springs is to add to cornering stiffness/roll stiffness, I drive spiritedly and prefer a firm tighter ride with less roll, already planning on the Addco front/rear sway bars, and either Bilstein/fox racing 2.0 external res shocks, and higher offset rims/spacers.
Also goes well with the turbo build haha

85% of the jeeps life will be a daily driver, but i camp/wheel also so i want a little height, 2" in the suspension and then what i gain with my offroad tires (32x11.50s) ill Daily on some sort of smaller much wider AT and if i end up feeling the need for grip ill run big rims and some super wide sticky street tires, topping it with a rear 8.8 with 4.10s and an lsd or locker, Swaping in an AW4/np231 pre clocked for a flat belly, and some boat sides up as high as i can go with the doors still sealing and ill be able to get anywhere i want to around where i wheel.

Bustedback

Well, good luck with all of that. Post pics of the progress.

wheelerboy12

Thanks haha, I will of course, work doesnt start till I finish paying it off another week or two, then ill cut the rockers out and start with the aw4 swap, and a BB right now its stock with 31x10.50s, it probably wont change other then cheap mods and repairs/upgrades till the end uof summer, on. tight budget for a few months.

dave1123

I don't get it. You want to raise it, then make it corner better? Good luck with that! You're talking with a guy that road-raced a Camaro. The Addco swap bars will help the most. IMHO, don't use wheel spacers.

wheelerboy12

haha I didn't know how to explain it last time I posted about it, and I don't know how to explain it now that I'm actually doing it, I don't really know how to explain what I'm expecting from it, but at 2" if it handles like stock I'll be happy, because I was already happy with stock




And luckily I've found myself a jeep this time and it has proper back spacing so I won't need the spacers.

dave1123

Okay, I've been told so don't take it as gospel, you can replace your front springs with V8 springs and use your fronts in the rear, resulting in about 1.75" to 2" of lift and stiffer ride. Add an Addco sway bar both front and rear and you should be good to go. As Busted says, use WJ control arms.

wheelerboy12

I thought front to rear coil swap did 3-3.5? isnt that why most 3-3.5 kits only come with new front springs? ive been thinking coils from a Niner might be a little stiffer but i still havent been able to find all the OEM coil rates for grands, witch for some reason had many different rate springs throughout the models/trims, my assumption is that the ninner would have gotten the stiffest but thats just a guess, from what i found grands have 150lb springs all the way around with a 4.0, and some say they are the same on most v8s, i want to be up around 180-220 and ive found a few lift companies whos spring rates are within those but all of them lift atleast 3-3.5" and thats way more then i want, im only looking to net 1.5-2" max but still get those rates, im tinking ill be stuck on poly spacers till i find a company that will charge me my left nut for some custom springs
i was also thinking up country coils and a smaller spacer, but i cant find rates for them and they are hard to find.

Appreciate the input even though i know it doesnt seem to make sense Haha, i was thinking kinda Jeep speedy but i dont want to be that high or run that large of tire.

Griffin13

I moved my fronts to the rear of my 94 ZJ with the 5.2 and I gained 3.5" of lift off of them for what its worth

dave1123

Try oldmanemu.com for springs.

basegrinder

check out "ryanvision" on youtube. Might give you an idea of long term goals...and it's just got a lot of pretty cool stuff with his project ZJ even if you don't want to get that crazy