Tompop

I ordered mine from eBay. It's a place called Flagship 1. It's a place in NY. They say it's plug and play. $230.99 + $16 shipping. It has really good reviews. It's supposed to get here next Tuesday or Wednesday. We'll see how it goes.

VTJeep

Auto Module Source. They were very easy to deal with and part was as described. Here's the link. https://www.automodulesource.com/

blueseasons

The place out of Florida is called All Computer Exchange. They also operate under at least one other name. It might be Auto Module Source. The address is the same.

THIS: http://www.yelp.com/biz/auto-computer-exchange-davie-2

AND THIS: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...-exchange.html

Is why I didn't go with them. The Stealership is very expensive. But it comes with a 2 year warranty and I know where to find them if it doesn't hold up. I also found Flagship1
but not until AFTER I went to the Stealership. You are correct. They have better reviews than the places in Florida.

vk1

I really appreciate it, i live in Florida, from what i understand it's a fairly common problem with jeep, you would think that chrysler would've addressed this problem and done something about it, i talked to a couple of people at a jeep dealership right down the road from me about this problem and they looked at me like i had asked them to contemplate the meaning of life.

blueseasons

These places I mentioned are out of Davie Florida. Close to Ft. Lauderdale. After reading those really bad reviews on YELP and the BBB, I decided I was going to learn from them, bite the bullet and get ripped off by the local dealership. I wasn't able to troubleshoot this problem myself. I wound up taking the vehicle to, 2 mechanics. They both said the same thing, PCM. Neither of them would deal with getting one from any place other than the dealer. They had experienced and heard of bad experiences with product from these places in Florida, and one mentioned another place in Wisconsin.
Jeep has been down 2 weeks and I just want to move on already. Mechanic #2 said he'd coordinate with the dealership if there are any problems down the road, since I went through him for the repair..
The local auto parts stores here (AUTOZONE, O'Rileys etc.)can get refurbished and programmed to your vehicle PCM's as well. They are sold by a place called CARDONE. Mechanic #2 said that he hasn't had experience with PCM's made by CARDONE but the other parts they sell are substandard. It will be interesting to see how this works out for you. I hope it goes well, however I have had enough frustration over this issue already and it seemed like getting this done through the dealer is the easiest way out, even if its the most expensive. So far, neither mechanic has charged me for any time trouble shooting the problem.

VTJeep

Could be I got lucky.. Twice.. Can't blame ya for opting with dealership instead! Good luck.

vk1

I appreciate your help, if i can't get it sorted out by the end of this weekend it's going to the shop, i hate sending my cars to the shop, i have fixed almost every problem a vehicle could have, but this just has me stumped, maybe I'm looking too hard for this problem and it's right under my nose, once it's fixed i will have the satisfaction of knowing what it was, and then I'm selling it, this jeep was supposed to be fun, I'm not having any fun.

VTJeep

The electronics are always so suspect in our rigs. I sent mine to the dealership at one point and they looked it over and concluded the PCM was probably the culprit cause no CEL, etc. turns out it was the ignition coil and not the 1000 dollar PCM.. Short story long, it can be a PITA to deal with this stuff..

blueseasons

You lucky. I don't know for certain, but I don't think mine even has a coil. I have spent in the area of over 10 hours, on-line researching PCM problems in my era Jeep and PCM suppliers. Because I spend most of my time on this board, I was under the impression that PCM problems are a huge problem in just Jeeps. That may true, but its' also an issue in other manufacturers vehicles that have PCMs. Electronics in general are issues in many other brands, even newer ones. I have learned a lot through this. Given that new PCM's are no longer available, I am concerned that this is going to be a consistent potential problem going forward in mine. My confidence level in this Jeep is zero now. I don't know that I will ever feel comfortable taking it to far from the home, even on a short trip. I have an 88 Chevy Pick up that has minimal electronics. It has been very reliable, despite it's age. I am looking into purchasing another older Chevy, a Tahoe or a Blazer type to try and avoid all these issues. Only time will tell.

vk1

I completely understand, even after i get this fixed I'm always going to wonder when it's going to act up again, i have a three month old daughter and i don't need this to happen while she is in the car with me, so I'm just going to fix it, sell it, and buy a blazer

Bustedback

A Blazer? You're just a glutton for punishment, aren't you. Seriously, if you want a put gas in it and forget it SUV you should consider a Toyota.

dave1123

Usually the problem that takes the older Chevys off the road is a cracked frame. They tend to crack just behind the trans crossmember on the passenger's side. I've had 3 Chevy trucks in my life, a 79, an 83, and an 89. The last one had EFI and that's why I sold it.

vk1

UPDATE: I went to my mother in law's house yesterday where my jeep has been sitting since Tuesday, i tried to start it and it fired right up, i drove it home, (about 2 miles) when i got home i plugged my scanner back in just to see, and had a P0351 ignition coil A code, so i replaced the ignition coil again because my old one was still under warranty, i drove it around a little last night without issue, it started up just fine this morning and i drove to work without issue, i don't know if that solved my problem, only time will tell, i do not have a lot of faith that it did, but I'll find out.

blueseasons

I have had 2, 95 Toyota 4 Runners. One blew a head gasket, not once, but twice. The second time after a factory recall and repair. Both had problems with throwing spark plugs out of the block. Neither, were abused. Both pretty much commute vehicles. They are expensive new,and tend to retain value for resale. Having said that who wants to buy a high mileage, used vehicle and pay top dollar for it. Despite my experience, they tend to be very popular, reliable and people hold on to them. I was thinking Blazer or Tahoe simply because they are plentiful, affordable, look really good and if you buy an older one that has been taken care of, all the kinks have been worked out. Wasn't aware of the frame issue. I have a 88 K1500 that's been really good to me. Thats what we drove when the Yotas were in the shop and now the Jeep.

dave1123

blueseasons, your jeep has coil packs on the valve covers over the spark plugs. One for each plug.

Also, my trucks were used to haul heavy stuff over dirt roads before I got them, so that might have something to do with the cracked frames. My 89 was the only 4WD one and it didn't have that problem.