ca state parks

a1racer · 05-30-2009, 03:23 AM

please read and sign if you are in California http://www.calparks.org/takeaction/

Oath · 05-30-2009, 09:48 AM

I'm not in California but does this include parks that are non-vehicle designated also?

4.3L XJ · 05-30-2009, 09:55 AM

There isn't a lot you fan do about this. The voters have voted. We told them we want all the goodies, but we don't want to pay for it. Well, that can't be done which is why we have a budget crisis. So here is what happens.

a1racer · 05-30-2009, 12:59 PM

Yes this includes non car parks as well. Like beaches and other recreation areas.

Dan4governor · 05-30-2009, 02:15 PM

signed...thanks for the heads up

a1racer · 05-30-2009, 05:44 PM

no problem this makes me angry stupid people and there cant figure out the budget

4.3L XJ · 05-30-2009, 06:52 PM

We the voters are as responsible as the politicians. We have been voting for budget items while cutting or limiting taxes at the same time. It was inevitable. If you want the goodies, you have to pay for them. Parks and Recreation are the first to go in any government down size.

If you want to gripe about something, I understand that the aid to illegal aliens was not cut at all.

a1racer · 05-30-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ

We the voters are as responsible as the politicians. We have been voting for budget items while cutting or limiting taxes at the same time. It was inevitable. If you want the goodies, you have to pay for them. Parks and Recreation are the first to go in any government down size.

If you want to gripe about something, I understand that the aid to illegal aliens was not cut at all.

yea i know always grab grab and never give

this is still an outrage though

a1racer · 05-30-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ

If you want to gripe about something, I understand that the aid to illegal aliens was not cut at all.

yeah i know talk about a slap in the face help the people who don't pay taxes and lose the money that should be going to better things.
but that is not my gripe the parks is

4.3L XJ · 05-30-2009, 09:25 PM

I understand your gripe. It will be a loss to us all to loose access to state lands. You might even find a few off road parks on that list. I have been in government service. There is a pecking order for budget cuts. Parks and Rec. and libraries are always the first to go. Law enforcement and fire protection the last. The rule is that if you want to pass a tax base, make the cuts hurt. Then in the next election you will get the money.

a1racer · 05-31-2009, 01:47 AM

i saw on the news tonight that in la area they are talking about doing some city some thing or another to save the la ones when i find out more i will share what it was

Crazy4x4Chick · 06-04-2009, 01:07 PM

I signed! None of the parks I go to are on that list, im in the Fresno - Visalia area. Hope we can keep this from happening!

a1racer · 06-04-2009, 01:47 PM

thank you i have this on sevral forums and i know it is in others i just cant belive that we can not move money from other stuff to help the state parks

rjxj · 06-18-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy4x4Chick

I signed! None of the parks I go to are on that list, im in the Fresno - Visalia area. Hope we can keep this from happening!

We be neighbors Crazy. Between Los Banos and Fresno

Signed. Hopefully not to late.

a1racer · 06-19-2009, 01:09 AM

they called me today about helping support the parks and i donated 40 bucks since i cant go to the capitol but i really hope this dont go through. think of it this way when you go to a park or off road area you buy stuff near buy right so if they close the stuff no body will be buying anymore so that will hurt us even more.

05-30-2009, 03:23 AM	#1
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05-30-2009, 12:59 PM	#4
a1racer CF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: socal Posts: 7,239 My Photos 2000 Cherokee Year: 2000 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Transmission: auto Transfer Case: 231 Front Axle: 30 3.55 cross over steering no sway bar jks adjustable coil overs Rear Axle: 44 3.55 disc brakes no sway bar. jks rear cross over shock mount Tires: 33 inch bfg km2 Lift Specifications: 5.5 inch rustys and rough country Misc Accessories: xrc 10'000 pound winch nates4x4 slimline front bumper. roof mount highlift jack and a stock CD radio	Yes this includes non car parks as well. Like beaches and other recreation areas. __________________ welcome to the fourm learn to search and have fun

05-30-2009, 02:15 PM	#5
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05-30-2009, 05:44 PM	#6
a1racer CF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: socal Posts: 7,239 My Photos 2000 Cherokee Year: 2000 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Transmission: auto Transfer Case: 231 Front Axle: 30 3.55 cross over steering no sway bar jks adjustable coil overs Rear Axle: 44 3.55 disc brakes no sway bar. jks rear cross over shock mount Tires: 33 inch bfg km2 Lift Specifications: 5.5 inch rustys and rough country Misc Accessories: xrc 10'000 pound winch nates4x4 slimline front bumper. roof mount highlift jack and a stock CD radio	no problem this makes me angry stupid people and there cant figure out the budget __________________ welcome to the fourm learn to search and have fun

05-31-2009, 01:47 AM	#11
a1racer CF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: socal Posts: 7,239 My Photos 2000 Cherokee Year: 2000 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Transmission: auto Transfer Case: 231 Front Axle: 30 3.55 cross over steering no sway bar jks adjustable coil overs Rear Axle: 44 3.55 disc brakes no sway bar. jks rear cross over shock mount Tires: 33 inch bfg km2 Lift Specifications: 5.5 inch rustys and rough country Misc Accessories: xrc 10'000 pound winch nates4x4 slimline front bumper. roof mount highlift jack and a stock CD radio	i saw on the news tonight that in la area they are talking about doing some city some thing or another to save the la ones when i find out more i will share what it was __________________ welcome to the fourm learn to search and have fun

05-30-2009, 09:48 AM	#2
Oath Seasoned Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Middlesex County, Connecticut Posts: 404 My Photos 1998 & 1991 Cherokee Year: 1998 & 1991 Model: Cherokee Engine: 98-4.0 & 91-4.0 Transmission: Stock Transfer Case: Stock Front Axle: 98-d30 & 91-d30 Rear Axle: 98-8.25 & 91-8.25 Tires: 98-stock & 91-33's Lift Specifications: 98-stock & 91-3" RE/Rustys Misc Accessories: 91-Snorkel,tube bumpers,lights on the roof, recovery gear, gas tank skid, t-case skid, lots of dents	I'm not in California but does this include parks that are non-vehicle designated also?

05-30-2009, 09:55 AM	#3
4.3L XJ CF Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 2,143 My Photos 1986 Cherokee Year: 1986 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.3L with headers and full 3" exhaust system Transmission: 4L60E with manual lockout. Transfer Case: Atlas 4 speed with 2.7, 3.8 and 10.38 Front Axle: D30 going to Toyota 8.25 with ARB Rear Axle: D35 going to Toyota 8.25 with ARB Tires: 31X10.50X15 going to 38s Lift Specifications: 7.5" RE coils on homegrown longarm, Tereflex high steer, bastard pack rear. Misc Accessories: Warn 9.5ti, a bag of goodies and custom onboard air	There isn't a lot you fan do about this. The voters have voted. We told them we want all the goodies, but we don't want to pay for it. Well, that can't be done which is why we have a budget crisis. So here is what happens.

05-30-2009, 06:52 PM	#7
4.3L XJ CF Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 2,143 My Photos 1986 Cherokee Year: 1986 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.3L with headers and full 3" exhaust system Transmission: 4L60E with manual lockout. Transfer Case: Atlas 4 speed with 2.7, 3.8 and 10.38 Front Axle: D30 going to Toyota 8.25 with ARB Rear Axle: D35 going to Toyota 8.25 with ARB Tires: 31X10.50X15 going to 38s Lift Specifications: 7.5" RE coils on homegrown longarm, Tereflex high steer, bastard pack rear. Misc Accessories: Warn 9.5ti, a bag of goodies and custom onboard air	We the voters are as responsible as the politicians. We have been voting for budget items while cutting or limiting taxes at the same time. It was inevitable. If you want the goodies, you have to pay for them. Parks and Recreation are the first to go in any government down size. If you want to gripe about something, I understand that the aid to illegal aliens was not cut at all.

05-30-2009, 09:25 PM	#10
4.3L XJ CF Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 2,143 My Photos 1986 Cherokee Year: 1986 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.3L with headers and full 3" exhaust system Transmission: 4L60E with manual lockout. Transfer Case: Atlas 4 speed with 2.7, 3.8 and 10.38 Front Axle: D30 going to Toyota 8.25 with ARB Rear Axle: D35 going to Toyota 8.25 with ARB Tires: 31X10.50X15 going to 38s Lift Specifications: 7.5" RE coils on homegrown longarm, Tereflex high steer, bastard pack rear. Misc Accessories: Warn 9.5ti, a bag of goodies and custom onboard air	I understand your gripe. It will be a loss to us all to loose access to state lands. You might even find a few off road parks on that list. I have been in government service. There is a pecking order for budget cuts. Parks and Rec. and libraries are always the first to go. Law enforcement and fire protection the last. The rule is that if you want to pass a tax base, make the cuts hurt. Then in the next election you will get the money.

06-04-2009, 01:07 PM	#12
Crazy4x4Chick Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 77 My Photos 1993 Cherokee Year: 1993 Model: Cherokee Engine: I6 4.0 High Output Transmission: 4 Speed Automatic Tires: 31x10.5 on Black Cragar Soft 8's Lift Specifications: 3' Rough Country Coil Suspension Misc Accessories: A Hot Chick =)	I signed! None of the parks I go to are on that list, im in the Fresno - Visalia area. Hope we can keep this from happening!

06-04-2009, 01:47 PM	#13
a1racer CF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: socal Posts: 7,239 My Photos 2000 Cherokee Year: 2000 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Transmission: auto Transfer Case: 231 Front Axle: 30 3.55 cross over steering no sway bar jks adjustable coil overs Rear Axle: 44 3.55 disc brakes no sway bar. jks rear cross over shock mount Tires: 33 inch bfg km2 Lift Specifications: 5.5 inch rustys and rough country Misc Accessories: xrc 10'000 pound winch nates4x4 slimline front bumper. roof mount highlift jack and a stock CD radio	thank you i have this on sevral forums and i know it is in others i just cant belive that we can not move money from other stuff to help the state parks __________________ welcome to the fourm learn to search and have fun

06-19-2009, 01:09 AM	#15
a1racer CF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: socal Posts: 7,239 My Photos 2000 Cherokee Year: 2000 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Transmission: auto Transfer Case: 231 Front Axle: 30 3.55 cross over steering no sway bar jks adjustable coil overs Rear Axle: 44 3.55 disc brakes no sway bar. jks rear cross over shock mount Tires: 33 inch bfg km2 Lift Specifications: 5.5 inch rustys and rough country Misc Accessories: xrc 10'000 pound winch nates4x4 slimline front bumper. roof mount highlift jack and a stock CD radio	they called me today about helping support the parks and i donated 40 bucks since i cant go to the capitol but i really hope this dont go through. think of it this way when you go to a park or off road area you buy stuff near buy right so if they close the stuff no body will be buying anymore so that will hurt us even more. __________________ welcome to the fourm learn to search and have fun

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