Seasonal roads near Traverse City

Dan91 · 10-04-2009, 05:31 PM

So I was gonna go out to Hoosier Valley (seasonal roads out by chums corners) and have some fun because all the rain must've made for some awesome off roading. Just before I could get around to doing anything a cop pulled me over and told me there was trouble back there with people tearing the roads up. He also said it was illegal to do anything "destructive" including driving through puddles or anything faster than 10-15 miles per hour.I was respectful and didn't want any trouble so I just let him know that I was gonna leave. Rather disappointing day. So, what is legal and what isn't? Where can I go off road legally in Michigan?

Laddie · 10-05-2009, 04:17 PM

it is my understanding that if it is a seasonal road, that is just like any other road, except they don't plow it in the winter. as long as you don't go off the road, I don't think there is much they can do. I am from muskegon county and I run the seasonal roads here all the time.

freeski_tc · 01-14-2010, 10:58 PM

I used to go to Hoosier Valley all the time with my Subaru and plan on doing so with the Jeep. It's not illegal to go back there especially if you head up that hill directly in front of you when you head in. No one has homes back there and its a lot more fun.

95yeti · 01-14-2010, 11:01 PM

im pretty sure that it is legal

Dan91 · 01-15-2010, 06:59 PM

Haha, this finally got a couple replies. Well, I know that tons of people go there all the time so I found it weird that the guy said I couldn't. Since posting this I've been going out to "the 80's" a lot. Never had problems out there yet I have heard that it is illegal (most of it is powerline maintenance roads ie electric company private property.) Many times out there though I've seen maintenance workers and asked them if it was fine, none of them ever complained. I wanna go out to Hoosier again soon if this melt keeps up. Anyone interested in coming along?

nick_n_ii · 01-15-2010, 07:15 PM

I use to live over in Kalkaska.

There is a ton of places to play between there and TC.

Sand Lake area for 1 can be fun and than there is a Power Line off of Brown Fire lane that is a LEGAL seasonal road if you go west, to the east it's not..

freeski_tc · 01-15-2010, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan91

Haha, this finally got a couple replies. Well, I know that tons of people go there all the time so I found it weird that the guy said I couldn't. Since posting this I've been going out to "the 80's" a lot. Never had problems out there yet I have heard that it is illegal (most of it is powerline maintenance roads ie electric company private property.) Many times out there though I've seen maintenance workers and asked them if it was fine, none of them ever complained. I wanna go out to Hoosier again soon if this melt keeps up. Anyone interested in coming along?

Absolutely. Me and a buddy would be more than down whenever.

freeski_tc · 01-15-2010, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_n_ii

I use to live over in Kalkaska.

There is a ton of places to play between there and TC.

Sand Lake area for 1 can be fun and than there is a Power Line off of Brown Fire lane that is a LEGAL seasonal road if you go west, to the east it's not..

Can you give me some more info on the sand lake area? I know where it is but don't know what would be legal and what would not.

nick_n_ii · 01-15-2010, 10:10 PM

I'll try and dig up my old maps and scan them in...

freeski_tc · 01-15-2010, 10:15 PM

Dude I really appreciate that. I'm trying to find places to have fun.

Dan91 · 01-17-2010, 10:22 PM

freeski, I'm thinking this coming weekend or the next would be good or we can definitely figure something else out, just let me know. Doesn't look like the weather is gonna be warm for a while again so I dunno. I wanna get my plates renewed first though. Should have em by Friday.

freeski_tc · 01-17-2010, 11:04 PM

Let's go not this weekend but the following. I'm headed downstate this weekend.

nick_n_ii · 01-18-2010, 09:17 AM

Just so you know I hadn't forgot about this. Just trying to find the maps. My wife miss placed them, there here just not sure where..

freeski_tc · 01-18-2010, 10:02 AM

Thanks again for doing that. Whenever you get around to it is great.

nick_n_ii · 01-20-2010, 08:03 PM

Ok this is the info i was given when I lived up there from a DNR officer. SO, if any of this is blocked off or posted than things have changed..

10-04-2009, 05:31 PM	#1
Dan91 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Traverse City, Michigan Posts: 87 My Photos 1989 Cherokee Year: 1989 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: auto Transfer Case: NP242 Front Axle: D30 Rear Axle: D35 Tires: Stock size streets/33" BFG MTs Lift Specifications: 4.5"	Seasonal roads near Traverse City So I was gonna go out to Hoosier Valley (seasonal roads out by chums corners) and have some fun because all the rain must've made for some awesome off roading. Just before I could get around to doing anything a cop pulled me over and told me there was trouble back there with people tearing the roads up. He also said it was illegal to do anything "destructive" including driving through puddles or anything faster than 10-15 miles per hour.I was respectful and didn't want any trouble so I just let him know that I was gonna leave. Rather disappointing day. So, what is legal and what isn't? Where can I go off road legally in Michigan?

01-15-2010, 07:15 PM	#6
nick_n_ii Anti-Obama, Pro-American Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burtchville Twp., MI Posts: 5,240 My Photos 1989 Cherokee Year: 1989 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AW4 Transfer Case: NP231 Front Axle: D30 open 3.55's Rear Axle: D44 open 3.55's Tires: 31X10.5-15's Lift Specifications: 4.25" Misc Accessories: CB and custom trimming	I use to live over in Kalkaska. There is a ton of places to play between there and TC. Sand Lake area for 1 can be fun and than there is a Power Line off of Brown Fire lane that is a LEGAL seasonal road if you go west, to the east it's not.. __________________ '89 Cherokee Laredo 5" RC lift, 31" GoodYear Authority AT's, NP231 T-case, HD steering, RC double shear track bar, HPD30 and D44 axles... www.adv4x4online.com / www.1stopgamer.com

01-15-2010, 10:10 PM	#9
nick_n_ii Anti-Obama, Pro-American Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burtchville Twp., MI Posts: 5,240 My Photos 1989 Cherokee Year: 1989 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AW4 Transfer Case: NP231 Front Axle: D30 open 3.55's Rear Axle: D44 open 3.55's Tires: 31X10.5-15's Lift Specifications: 4.25" Misc Accessories: CB and custom trimming	I'll try and dig up my old maps and scan them in... __________________ '89 Cherokee Laredo 5" RC lift, 31" GoodYear Authority AT's, NP231 T-case, HD steering, RC double shear track bar, HPD30 and D44 axles... www.adv4x4online.com / www.1stopgamer.com

01-18-2010, 09:17 AM	#13
nick_n_ii Anti-Obama, Pro-American Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burtchville Twp., MI Posts: 5,240 My Photos 1989 Cherokee Year: 1989 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AW4 Transfer Case: NP231 Front Axle: D30 open 3.55's Rear Axle: D44 open 3.55's Tires: 31X10.5-15's Lift Specifications: 4.25" Misc Accessories: CB and custom trimming	Just so you know I hadn't forgot about this. Just trying to find the maps. My wife miss placed them, there here just not sure where.. __________________ '89 Cherokee Laredo 5" RC lift, 31" GoodYear Authority AT's, NP231 T-case, HD steering, RC double shear track bar, HPD30 and D44 axles... www.adv4x4online.com / www.1stopgamer.com

01-20-2010, 08:03 PM	#15
nick_n_ii Anti-Obama, Pro-American Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burtchville Twp., MI Posts: 5,240 My Photos 1989 Cherokee Year: 1989 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AW4 Transfer Case: NP231 Front Axle: D30 open 3.55's Rear Axle: D44 open 3.55's Tires: 31X10.5-15's Lift Specifications: 4.25" Misc Accessories: CB and custom trimming	Ok this is the info i was given when I lived up there from a DNR officer. SO, if any of this is blocked off or posted than things have changed.. __________________ '89 Cherokee Laredo 5" RC lift, 31" GoodYear Authority AT's, NP231 T-case, HD steering, RC double shear track bar, HPD30 and D44 axles... www.adv4x4online.com / www.1stopgamer.com

10-05-2009, 04:17 PM	#2
Laddie Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: montague,MI Posts: 51 My Photos 1995 Cherokee Year: 1995 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Transmission: AW4 Transfer Case: np231j Front Axle: HP dana 30 Rear Axle: chrysler 8.25-27 spline Tires: BFG 235/75-r15(winter tires) Lift Specifications: 4.5" rough country Misc Accessories: rusty's cold air kit, rusty's cat back system	it is my understanding that if it is a seasonal road, that is just like any other road, except they don't plow it in the winter. as long as you don't go off the road, I don't think there is much they can do. I am from muskegon county and I run the seasonal roads here all the time.

01-14-2010, 10:58 PM	#3
freeski_tc Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Traverse City,MI Posts: 62 My Photos 1997 Cherokee Year: 1997 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Inline 6 Transmission: Auto Tires: Firestone Destination 31x10.5R15 on Cragar D-windows Lift Specifications: 3" Rough Country Misc Accessories: Airaid Intake, Poweraid throttle body spacer, Dynomax exhaust	I used to go to Hoosier Valley all the time with my Subaru and plan on doing so with the Jeep. It's not illegal to go back there especially if you head up that hill directly in front of you when you head in. No one has homes back there and its a lot more fun.

01-14-2010, 11:01 PM	#4
95yeti CF Veteran Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: perrysburg Posts: 2,137 My Photos 1995 Cherokee Year: 1995 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L 6cyl Transmission: auto Front Axle: stock Rear Axle: stock Tires: mickey thompson mtz 31" Lift Specifications: 3 inch bds Misc Accessories: kc day lighters	im pretty sure that it is legal

01-15-2010, 06:59 PM	#5
Dan91 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Traverse City, Michigan Posts: 87 My Photos 1989 Cherokee Year: 1989 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: auto Transfer Case: NP242 Front Axle: D30 Rear Axle: D35 Tires: Stock size streets/33" BFG MTs Lift Specifications: 4.5"	Haha, this finally got a couple replies. Well, I know that tons of people go there all the time so I found it weird that the guy said I couldn't. Since posting this I've been going out to "the 80's" a lot. Never had problems out there yet I have heard that it is illegal (most of it is powerline maintenance roads ie electric company private property.) Many times out there though I've seen maintenance workers and asked them if it was fine, none of them ever complained. I wanna go out to Hoosier again soon if this melt keeps up. Anyone interested in coming along?

01-15-2010, 10:15 PM	#10
freeski_tc Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Traverse City,MI Posts: 62 My Photos 1997 Cherokee Year: 1997 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Inline 6 Transmission: Auto Tires: Firestone Destination 31x10.5R15 on Cragar D-windows Lift Specifications: 3" Rough Country Misc Accessories: Airaid Intake, Poweraid throttle body spacer, Dynomax exhaust	Dude I really appreciate that. I'm trying to find places to have fun.

01-17-2010, 10:22 PM	#11
Dan91 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Traverse City, Michigan Posts: 87 My Photos 1989 Cherokee Year: 1989 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: auto Transfer Case: NP242 Front Axle: D30 Rear Axle: D35 Tires: Stock size streets/33" BFG MTs Lift Specifications: 4.5"	freeski, I'm thinking this coming weekend or the next would be good or we can definitely figure something else out, just let me know. Doesn't look like the weather is gonna be warm for a while again so I dunno. I wanna get my plates renewed first though. Should have em by Friday.

01-17-2010, 11:04 PM	#12
freeski_tc Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Traverse City,MI Posts: 62 My Photos 1997 Cherokee Year: 1997 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Inline 6 Transmission: Auto Tires: Firestone Destination 31x10.5R15 on Cragar D-windows Lift Specifications: 3" Rough Country Misc Accessories: Airaid Intake, Poweraid throttle body spacer, Dynomax exhaust	Let's go not this weekend but the following. I'm headed downstate this weekend.

01-18-2010, 10:02 AM	#14
freeski_tc Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Traverse City,MI Posts: 62 My Photos 1997 Cherokee Year: 1997 Model: Cherokee Engine: 4.0 Inline 6 Transmission: Auto Tires: Firestone Destination 31x10.5R15 on Cragar D-windows Lift Specifications: 3" Rough Country Misc Accessories: Airaid Intake, Poweraid throttle body spacer, Dynomax exhaust	Thanks again for doing that. Whenever you get around to it is great.

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