xjoffroad

This is not funny. I understand trying to get a rig unstuck but its stupid peoples actions like these that get our places to wheel shut down. I would remove the video.

Djkindt

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billulsund

It is idiots like you that are going to ruin wheeling for the rest of us. These are the kind of videos that the greenies and eco-thugs use to get wheeling areas shut down.

Djkindt

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supsa

No you need to be called an IDIOT. If you dont know what your doing then you dont need to go there. This is the type of crap that hurts us all. Please remove the vid it only hurts are spot more.

You must be youg and dumb. Taking a tree out is theft and you should be held acountable. If I were there or others that support our sport you would have gotten chased out with your tail between you legs. You will not wheel with me nor will you get help from me out on a trail. Please stay off our trails

Djkindt

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supsa

Oh no name calling. I didn't say anything about the trail. I posted about a tree that you and your friends destroyed. Maybe you should start by going on a newb run and learn something before you hurt yourself or others.

Oh ya way to recover a rig. If you knew what you were doing you would have gone a differant way

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billulsund

I want to believe you when you say your intention was to get un-stuck and that pulling down the tree was an accident. The real problem with the video is that removing or damaging a tree without permission is illegal. What you did was illegal, even if it was on accident. Lumberjacks doing their jobs and hunters killing bunnies is not illegal. There are a lot of people out there (Sierra Club) who want to see all 4x4 vehicles removed from the woods. In their arguments against the 4 wheeling community they use videos like these to prove that we do not know how to responsibly use the forests. You are giving them the ammunition they need to try and shut down trails. Will this specific video be the reason that any trail get shut down? Probably not, but it sure does not help our cause.

Djkindt

That was indeed our intention. I understand wanting to keep our trails open, and I'm sorry if this video caused anyone grief... I will delete it now. Thank you for being cordial with me. I only lashed out the way I did because I wasn't expecting the reaction I got from people. I was a bit over-defensive, and I will think twice before something like this happens again.

billulsund

Cool man, I appreciate it. I saw where this thread was going and realized that someone just needed to explain it nicely cause all the name calling BS was getting us nowhere (sorry for calling you an idiot in my original post). I am glad you can now see why we don't need videos like these floating around.

xjoffroad

you are now popular. posted your video on nw-wheelers before you deleted it. there was some good comments on there for you to

cant believe you honestly posted that. how young and naive are you?

Djkindt

No worries guys. Please understand that I don't want the trails shut down any more than you do. I saw the comments on NW wheelers too. I honestly think it's funny (not the video, but the comments!). I'm not that young, and sometimes a little naive, but I think you are being just plain ignorant if you fail to admit you've ever made a mistake (even though it wasn't my rig that was stuck, my rig that pulled it out or even me that took the video). What's done is done.

xjoffroad

no I have made mistakes before but never posted a video of it before and think its funny. next time just be a little smarter, ok?

dja410

It wasnt a good thing to do I agree with that. But people ecspecialy on forums love to jump on peoples mistakes and call them names and then try their hardest to keep it going. Thats why you gotta learn to not give a **** what people say on the web theirs alot of dick heads on the web.