Gee oh Dee

This.

Gee oh Dee

Its an 88, shouldnt have a carbon.
How did you 'give it gas'? With the gas pedal? Typically not a good idea. Doesn't always work.

Like I suggested earlier, check for fuel at the rail. Real simple and easy.

Then go from there.

BabeDaBlueOx

alsxj, The engine IS turning over.

mudderx, I may repeat myself but this is EVERYTHING that happened to the Jeep since we bought it and when it broke down. Give you guys all the info.
We bought it from a girl that had it sitting on her property for about 3 months. She said the only problem was the selenoid (spelling?) and that sometimes you had to run a wire to get it started. The Jeep started right up we gave her the money, drove home with no problem. We changed the oil, oil filter and the coolant ourselves. There was A LOT of rust in the radiator so we have to put a Prestone treatment through the radiator to flush all of that out ( there's still a LITTLE bit of rust but the majority of it came out.) Replaced some bulbs and a couple fuses and she was running amazing! The only thing that we heard was the muffler rattling because it was a little loose and we bolted that down.

Stopped at the gas station threw some lucas in there filled up and we started to drive up to the pass. The only thing that I noticed was that the heater wasn't gettin' as hot as it did before. The temperature gauge was normal though, not over heating or too cold. We drove about 67 miles or so and we were in the snow fished tailed a few times stopped put her into 4 wheel drive high and started driving again. Went around a corner and died. It didn't bog out didn't make noise just died. He was driving and I didn't even feel the Jeep died, I was surprised when he said we were dead. So we tried the wire thing and nothing happened. We had to wave someone down to pick us up because we were gonna be late for our training so the Jeep sat there for about 5/6 hours. We hitched a ride down there and looked at a few things, checked the spark plugs and the alternator and battery all were good to go. She's turning over just just won't catch on completely. And the sound that the fuel pump makes when you turn the key doesn't happen which made us think it was that. Tried give it as much gas as we could when we tryin' to start her up and no smell of gas at all. I crawled underneath to see if there was any leaks or a break in the line and everything looks good. I couldn't call a tow truck or anyone because there's no phone service up that high. So we had to leave it on the side of the road.

I didn't think to check the schroeder valve on the fuel rail so that'll be next. We had the fuses are relays looked at by a friend at a parts shop the day after we got it but it wouldn't hurt to look again. And I'll look at the fuel pump ballast resistor. Thank you guys for a help again.

BigDog/CJ

So assuming this is a straight six with fuel injectors pumping gas is not going to help or do anything, you only do that with a carb and doing that to much with a carb is not the best idea either. Your not really going to smell gas much on a fuel injector system.

If you are able to get a power tester up there with you I would first test to see if there is power going to the pump at the wires going in to the pump before trying to replace it. Also yes checking for gas on the fuel rail is another good trouble shooting option.

You say you check the spark plugs now are you saying pulled them out to see what they looked like or did you test to make sure they are getting a spark? If they are not getting a spark then there is a good chance the CPS went out, they are known for going bad.

Another thought would be to tell us where you are and where your jeep is stuck at, you would be shocked at how many times if someone is able to they will come out and help fix it and or get you towed home. Yes AAA is something anyone that plans on driving a car let alone a 4X4 out on the trails or in the snow should have.

I hope some of this is helpful and let us know where you are at and what not.

BabeDaBlueOx

Well It's not exactly AAA but our insurance agent told us that we paid for roadside assistance when we insured the Jeep come to find out that's not the case. And I agree that AAA is a good thing to have but funds are EXTREMELY low at the moment so that's not really an option.

We do have a tester and did test the spark plugs when we were up there. The plan is to go back and test EVERYTHING as well as check everything out that you guys were suggesting.

We're stuck on Highway 58 about 2 miles away from Willamette Pass Ski Resort in Oregon.

BigDog/CJ

Damn that is a long ways out from where I am at if you were close enough I would come out to help or at least have my AAA come out to tow you home.

If your getting good spark then for sure lean toward the fuel system but keep in mind there are a number of things that it could be with the fuel system. From the way you said it just died and didn't spudder then die I would be looking at the electrical parts of the fuel system first though. Could be as simple as a fuse went out.

BabeDaBlueOx

I'll double check all the fuses again when we make it back up there hopefully today. I HOPE that it's as simple as a fuse and nothing to complicated or expensive. Thank you for your help!

BabeDaBlueOx

Also, with checking the spark on the fuel pump is there a specific way to do that? Like am I going to blow myself up? Hahaha Just asking I've never had to check a fuel pump before.

alsxj

No worries man, but you don't check for spark at the fuel pump, you check for spark at the spark plugs. The only thing you can do at the pump is take off the fuel inlet hose to the filter and turn the key to on just to make sure the pump is pumping fuel.

popcancherokee

Sounds like a fuel pump they go out when ever they want.And you do not have to drop the tank to replace the fuel pump it is in the middle front top of the tank easy to replace.I had to do it on the trail.It just sucks if your tank is full.Spray some starting fluid into the intake and if it starts if it does I would say fuel pump.But check for spark first.The two things you need to run is spark and fuel.good luck...

BabeDaBlueOx

Oh got another question for you guys. So I was looking up how to safely take the fuel filter off and the fuel pump out (just for reference if I have to end up doing it) and I read that you need to take the pressure out of the fuel line (of course.) But the way they explain to release the pressure you have to have it running... How do you release the pressure in the fuel line if it won't start?

Sorry for all the Newbie questions, I'm a girl working on her first vehicle. Be nice. Hahaha

odgreen

from the shrader valve on the fuel rail.

BabeDaBlueOx

Oh okay I didn't know the schrader valve would release the pressure too. Didn't fit that together... Thanks!

pickles

Get some starting fluid, or something flammable in a spray can. Take the intake tube off of the throttle body. Spray some down the throttle body and turn it over, if it fires, you got a fuel problem.

If that does absolutely nothing it could be a crank position sensor issue, check for spark. If you do not have a spare plug laying around, pull a spark plug out of your engine, plug it into the spark plug wire, turn it over a few times and check for spark

jomps

how did you check relays...did you swap them out? my 2000 has one for the fuel pump and i thought i read if you pull that you can run the pressure and fuel out of the line... if the engine runs that is


the easiest thing to do right now is to prime fuel system and check for fuel at fuel rail...if you know your getting fuel it will help narrow down what the issue is