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Old 05-22-2016, 07:12 PM
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Hi everyone,

I'm slowly moving through the build on my 99 Cherokee. I removed the door trim pieces today - took a while but got most all of the old adhesive off.

However, when I removed these pieces I was sad to see leftover overspray where a previous owner had taped off the trim pieces and resprayed them black..some spray paint bled thru as seen below and this is what I have now..




..I think I'm going to need to replace the trim instead of leaving it off.

The main door piece looks like this, there's also one in the front and one in the back (3 on each side, 6 total):



Does anyone know where I can get new OEM parts or something similar?

I know some people repaint theirs but these are in bad shape and I would rather go new if possible since they're in bad shape.

Here's an example of one I took off..



Thanks and any suggestions welcome!

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Rubbing compound to remove the overspray?
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Rubbing compound to remove the overspray?
I will definitely give that a try first - I have a good buffer and compound, I may even try some easy off oven cleaner over saran wrap on the spots since that worked when I was removing lighter clear coat etched in pinstriping with some bikes I've done..

But my gut tells me it might be easier to just replace the trim and I don't dislike the look of em, these were in bad shape but new trim pieces with the other things I'm doing would work. - assuming it's available and reasonably priced, probably not though since this is an older vehicle.

I already have replacement for the rear fend side trim pieces - they are new and only $75 for both pieces...I don't think I would be so lucky with these though.
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Don't take a buffer to it until you use the rubbing compound by hand. You can tear through to the metal real easy with the machine. Overspray usually comes off rather easily. Be patient and work it.
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Thanks man, I'll try a lighter tough by hand first and see where that goes.
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I don't think those trim pieces are available OEM anymore. When I looked a few years ago the rear quarter panel trim was still available but that's all.
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try 3m fill and glaze. not sure where to get it now, but I got my last bottle at Napa
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Thanks, I'm gonna try a clay bar first..then fine rubbing compound - finally scratch-X so we'll see.
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No need for buffing. Unless it's under some good clear coat, just get a rag wet with some laquer thinner and it will wipe right off. Never had a problem removing spray paint with some thinner. Just don't rub hard. I was removing overspray on my door jambs and for some reason the factory paint started coming off. Not sure if it wasn't really cleared well or what but it's the first time of many I have had that happen.
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Thanks for the suggestion, would regular "paint thinner" work as well?

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No need for buffing. Unless it's under some good clear coat, just get a rag wet with some laquer thinner and it will wipe right off. Never had a problem removing spray paint with some thinner. Just don't rub hard. I was removing overspray on my door jambs and for some reason the factory paint started coming off. Not sure if it wasn't really cleared well or what but it's the first time of many I have had that happen.
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It may if it is an oil based spray paint like rustoleum or krylon. If u already have some it won't hurt anything to give it a try.
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Mine were taped off and painted looks better than that plastic stuff I think.
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Problem has been resolved, started with regular low grit rubbing compound but that was a chore. I've done "over clearcoat" paint removal with motorcycle projects and decided to use Scratch-X which has a little more grit and with a few soft cloths with the ole dime inside to create an edge, it was a lot quicker job.

Got the overpaint line nice and slick with scratch-X, the overpaint lines were easy to feel and work out quickly, the right angle on the cloth and dime edge made short work of it and no damage done.

I'll post some pics up but it might be after the lift/wheels/tires/drum to disk is done.

Moving along slowly but surely and thanks for all the help and posts here!

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I know some old dog trick involving soft cloths, acetone and a very very light touch.

Oh the rags are wetted with acetone, NOT SOAKED, and any rubbing is done when the acetone is almost all evaporated off.

Yeah it's risky ..... but it works.

The overspray is newer paint and should come off easier than any original finish.
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A pro detailer would say;

1. Claybar (Aggressive for heavy bonded contaminants)
2. Compound with a rotary polisher (ideally). A random orbit will also do the job but with a bit less "cut" so you may need to work the area more. Megs #105 would probably be good for that
3. Polish using a Random Orbit (Megs #205 would be good for that) to clear up any buffer trails
4. Seal and Wax

The heaviest overspray may need to be wetsanded off the clearcoat if heavy clay + compound doesnt take care of it.
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