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Old 07-24-2014, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselD

Yea sure was. It sat for a few months before this too. Dunno if that could've had an effect on it. After I finished the sye it shifted fine by hand.
Make sure your linkage is adjusted properly
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Originally Posted by JerrytheJeep
Make sure your linkage is adjusted properly
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Originally Posted by JerrytheJeep

Make sure your linkage is adjusted properly
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Definitely not the linkage. I have boostwerks HD linkage on there and after adjusting it I don't see how it could be the problem.

I was reading a lot earlier. I believe my problem is somewhere in one of the shift forks or a problem with binding. I'm going to start with double checking the shift fork length (it might be mode fork or something I've been reading so much my head hurts) and then go from there. I also believe I may be missing the spring that is supposed to hold tension on the fork while in 2wd. I don't specifically remember putting that in or actually ever seeing it while doing the sye.

So basically I could be dealing with more than one problem.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Based on those facts, I'll never replace another head gasket on a Jeep as long as I live.....
Professionals don't even bother. Labour alone is thousands of dollars. Much cheaper to buy a new vehicle.

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Originally Posted by DieselD
So you had a head gasket done and its running like poo? Did the head itself get checked out? It could be warped or cracked.
Head gasket was done at same time as headers and it was running rough before all this so I don't think the two are connected..
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Well ****. Instead of performing a totally normal repair I guess you'll have to replace the entire Jeep then. Maybe he doesn't know that head bolts are single-use (two uses if you're good... but probably not) and can't bolt up a manifold.
So, I know enough to get myself into trouble but not out: the head bolts being single use, two if your good, does that mean they should have been replaced with gasket or is that possible? And the exhaust manifold got new hardware when header went on. Sorry, it's 7 AM, I've been awake for 5 min. and this is a confounding issue for me.. Oh and by "totally normal repair" you mean that literally right, like doing a head gasket isn't hard/dangerous cause that was my impression. I really do appreciate the help guys.
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Doing a head gasket on the ole' 4.0 is really easy, just takes time to do it.
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Originally Posted by DieselD
Definitely not the linkage. I have boostwerks HD linkage on there and after adjusting it I don't see how it could be the problem.

I was reading a lot earlier. I believe my problem is somewhere in one of the shift forks or a problem with binding. I'm going to start with double checking the shift fork length (it might be mode fork or something I've been reading so much my head hurts) and then go from there. I also believe I may be missing the spring that is supposed to hold tension on the fork while in 2wd. I don't specifically remember putting that in or actually ever seeing it while doing the sye.

So basically I could be dealing with more than one problem.
You are on the right track, just wrong thread (OEM tech).
First remove shift linkage and shift TC by hand and try to move jeep.

The shift fork is known to need 'tuning' (grinding).

The lack of spring could be the main issue!

You can watch the movement of fork through a bolt hole; https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/tr...1/#post2706604

Shifter shaft too long? https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/un...install-89090/
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Originally Posted by VTJeep

So, I know enough to get myself into trouble but not out: the head bolts being single use, two if your good, does that mean they should have been replaced with gasket or is that possible? And the exhaust manifold got new hardware when header went on. Sorry, it's 7 AM, I've been awake for 5 min. and this is a confounding issue for me.. Oh and by "totally normal repair" you mean that literally right, like doing a head gasket isn't hard/dangerous cause that was my impression. I really do appreciate the help guys.
Yup mmhmm. The bolts & studs stretch each time they're torqued. If they're old or were reused recently they need to be replaced.

I wouldn't say it's a routine but it's a standard job on pretty much every engine ever.

Rough running on a 4.0L after HG change to me says that the manifolds aren't sealing properly. Most likely. New gasket is a good idea.

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Doing a head gasket on the ole' 4.0 is really easy, just takes time to do it.
So I'm told!
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr

You are on the right track, just wrong thread (OEM tech).
First remove shift linkage and shift TC by hand and try to move jeep.

The shift fork is known to need 'tuning' (grinding).

The lack of spring could be the main issue!

You can watch the movement of fork through a bolt hole; https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/tr...1/#post2706604

Shifter shaft too long? https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/un...install-89090/
Thanks. I will be giving it a go when I get over there today.

I never realized the ask a question thread was in OEM tech. Maybe we could start a non-oem ask a question thread?
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Originally Posted by DieselD
Maybe we could start a non-oem ask a question thread?
I agree. I have looked for one with no luck.
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I decided to lay down in the back on my lunch break and noticed there's three metal tabs on the ceiling where the headliner meet the hatch door. I never saw this before and it wasn't on other jeeps



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Anyone know what it's for?
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I decided to lay down in the back on my lunch break and noticed there's three metal tabs on the ceiling where the headliner meet the hatch door. I never saw this before and it wasn't on other jeeps

Anyone know what it's for?
I've used them for the baby seat tie down. Also can use for cargo net etc. Anything your heart desires
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Originally Posted by salad
Yup mmhmm. The bolts & studs stretch each time they're torqued. If they're old or were reused recently they need to be replaced. I wouldn't say it's a routine but it's a standard job on pretty much every engine ever. Rough running on a 4.0L after HG change to me says that the manifolds aren't sealing properly. Most likely. New gasket is a good idea. So I'm told!
Good to know. The jeep was running rough before head gasket. I had the classic cracked collector on exhaust manifold, so while new header was going in (with new bolts) the head gasket was done. I was hoping this was going to help cure some of its issues, bit no luck. It ran the same before and after the exhaust/head work. Again, THANK YOU! You guys are awesome or the help ad patience with this.
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
I've used them for the baby seat tie down. Also can use for cargo net etc. Anything your heart desires
I second the baby seat tie down, I believe that is the intended purpose.
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