aftermarket header HP gains

flexin91xj · 03-01-2010, 10:02 PM

Has anyone on here installed an aftermarket header? If so, what brand, price, and did you feel any power diference? Whats the best bang for your buck header out there? Ive seen the ruggid ridge for $200 bucks, but is it crap?

98 JeepJeep · 03-01-2010, 10:13 PM

ebay header

brutalxj · 03-01-2010, 10:14 PM

I have yet to install one cause I'm holding out for a banks there 500. They clam 30 or 35 HP. But I have a buddy who has found 3 or 4 borlas in junk yards that he clams to have the same gains. But he payed between 15 and 30 bucks for them. So if you can find one I'm also looking so good luck.

98 JeepJeep · 03-01-2010, 10:17 PM

i have found a borla cat back at the JY but no other aftermarket parts.....

flexin91xj · 03-01-2010, 10:21 PM

i read a thread on another jeep forum and this guys banks header cracked after only a year. they did replace it for free though.

guest02 · 03-01-2010, 10:22 PM

Probably the most popular Header out there is the APN from ineedparts... definitely the most "bang" for the buck!!!

http://www.ineedparts.com/auto-parts...-manifold.html

flexin91xj · 03-01-2010, 10:22 PM

500 bucks it just insane for one header. I used to have a 93 mustang gt and even full length headers didnt cost that much. i just dont get why aftermarket performance parts are so expensive for jeep???

flexin91xj · 03-01-2010, 10:24 PM

WOW!!! why is the APN header so cheap?

guest02 · 03-01-2010, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexin91xj

WOW!!! why is the APN header so cheap?

Cheap... NO!

Inexpensive... Yes and nobody really knows why.
They might just be trying to put Banks out of business???

BTW- Whatever Header you decide on, a few helpful hints... PB Blaster, new Header Bolts, new Motor Mounts, and fosure a Flex Pipe like this will keep your new Header from cracking...

flexin91xj · 03-01-2010, 10:58 PM

I have read on other threads that you should replace the motor mounts when doing a header swap. Stupid question, but why is that?

guest02 · 03-02-2010, 03:48 AM

they say... it's the up/down movement of the motor that creates the cracks at the collector...

The Motor Mounts are VERY easy to replace with the P/S out of the way, during the Header install.

ytee · 03-05-2010, 09:37 PM

Is the APN a good header? Seems awful cheap.

SeriousOffroad · 03-05-2010, 10:18 PM

It's an awesome header and I've recommended it many times.

Nstyfox · 03-06-2010, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfxj67

Cheap... NO!

Inexpensive... Yes and nobody really knows why.
They might just be trying to put Banks out of business???

BTW- Whatever Header you decide on, a few helpful hints... PB Blaster, new Header Bolts, new Motor Mounts, and fosure a Flex Pipe like this will keep your new Header from cracking...

Does anybody actually sell the kinked section after the header thats not kinked and has a flex joint like you posted?????

96Cherokee113 · 03-06-2010, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfxj67

they say... it's the up/down movement of the motor that creates the cracks at the collector...

The Motor Mounts are VERY easy to replace with the P/S out of the way, during the Header install.

Looks like you've torn that one hundred dollar bill. You better send it to me so I can make sure it is still in usable condition. I work for...uh...the Quality Department of the US Mint

BTW is that just flat black high heat paint on there? How'd it hold up?

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flexin91xj Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Westminster Colorado Posts: 612 My Photos 1991 (2-door) Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AX-15 Transfer Case: 231 w/SYE Front Axle: Custom width HD HP D44 w/lock right Rear Axle: Ford 8.8 w/factory LSD Tires: 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Lift Specifications: 6.5" Misc Accessories: 4.6 stroker under construction	i read a thread on another jeep forum and this guys banks header cracked after only a year. they did replace it for free though. __________________ Just Empty Every Pocket 1991 Jeep XJ 2-Door 6.5" Lift, 4.0L HO, AX-15, NP231 w/SYE Custom HP D44(LockRight)/Ford 8.8(Factory LSD) 4.10s 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Stroker & Long Arms Coming Soon...

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flexin91xj Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Westminster Colorado Posts: 612 My Photos 1991 (2-door) Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AX-15 Transfer Case: 231 w/SYE Front Axle: Custom width HD HP D44 w/lock right Rear Axle: Ford 8.8 w/factory LSD Tires: 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Lift Specifications: 6.5" Misc Accessories: 4.6 stroker under construction	500 bucks it just insane for one header. I used to have a 93 mustang gt and even full length headers didnt cost that much. i just dont get why aftermarket performance parts are so expensive for jeep??? __________________ Just Empty Every Pocket 1991 Jeep XJ 2-Door 6.5" Lift, 4.0L HO, AX-15, NP231 w/SYE Custom HP D44(LockRight)/Ford 8.8(Factory LSD) 4.10s 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Stroker & Long Arms Coming Soon...

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flexin91xj Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Westminster Colorado Posts: 612 My Photos 1991 (2-door) Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AX-15 Transfer Case: 231 w/SYE Front Axle: Custom width HD HP D44 w/lock right Rear Axle: Ford 8.8 w/factory LSD Tires: 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Lift Specifications: 6.5" Misc Accessories: 4.6 stroker under construction	WOW!!! why is the APN header so cheap? __________________ Just Empty Every Pocket 1991 Jeep XJ 2-Door 6.5" Lift, 4.0L HO, AX-15, NP231 w/SYE Custom HP D44(LockRight)/Ford 8.8(Factory LSD) 4.10s 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Stroker & Long Arms Coming Soon...

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brutalxj CF Veteran Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: WI Posts: 1,505 My Photos '99 Cherokee Engine: 4.o Transmission: aw4 Transfer Case: np231 Front Axle: d30 Rear Axle: c8.25 Tires: 36x12.50 Lift Specifications: 5.5" Misc Accessories: 95 sold RIP	I have yet to install one cause I'm holding out for a banks there 500. They clam 30 or 35 HP. But I have a buddy who has found 3 or 4 borlas in junk yards that he clams to have the same gains. But he payed between 15 and 30 bucks for them. So if you can find one I'm also looking so good luck.

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guest02 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 629 My Photos Cherokee	Probably the most popular Header out there is the APN from ineedparts... definitely the most "bang" for the buck!!! http://www.ineedparts.com/auto-parts...-manifold.html

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flexin91xj Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Westminster Colorado Posts: 612 My Photos 1991 (2-door) Cherokee Engine: 4.0L Transmission: AX-15 Transfer Case: 231 w/SYE Front Axle: Custom width HD HP D44 w/lock right Rear Axle: Ford 8.8 w/factory LSD Tires: 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Lift Specifications: 6.5" Misc Accessories: 4.6 stroker under construction	I have read on other threads that you should replace the motor mounts when doing a header swap. Stupid question, but why is that? __________________ Just Empty Every Pocket 1991 Jeep XJ 2-Door 6.5" Lift, 4.0L HO, AX-15, NP231 w/SYE Custom HP D44(LockRight)/Ford 8.8(Factory LSD) 4.10s 35x12.50r15 Cooper Discoverer SST Mud Terrains Stroker & Long Arms Coming Soon...

03-02-2010, 03:48 AM	#11
guest02 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 629 My Photos Cherokee	they say... it's the up/down movement of the motor that creates the cracks at the collector... The Motor Mounts are VERY easy to replace with the P/S out of the way, during the Header install.

03-05-2010, 09:37 PM	#12
ytee Newbie Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 12 My Photos Cherokee	Is the APN a good header? Seems awful cheap.

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