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Old 03-22-2017, 06:55 PM
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I got a compression test earlier (I didn't run the test myself) and was told its fine. Head issue is also very possible, considering its an 01
I'm thinking a cracked head would show with a leakdown test.

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well i am still only getting the misfire on cylinder 1. I check the wiring with the noid light, it failed the first time, and i thought that was my problem. 2 days after i had time to work on it, tested the wire again and.......it works. Theres pulse. Now I am totally lost. No vacuum leak, compression is good, changed coil, plugs, injectors, im thinking next step is take the head off and see........anyone have suggestions? I am open to anything right now..
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Have you tried a new plug wire to that one? Sounds like it may be intermittent. That can be a bear to run down.

If that's good, I'm thinking you may be right about pulling the head. I'd pull the valve cover first just to see if you can spot anything obvious. Run the engine with the cover off (yes, messy) and watch teh valve action.
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Have you tried a new plug wire to that one? Sounds like it may be intermittent. That can be a bear to run down.

If that's good, I'm thinking you may be right about pulling the head. I'd pull the valve cover first just to see if you can spot anything obvious. Run the engine with the cover off (yes, messy) and watch teh valve action.
I dont have plug wires, I have a coil pack.

Earlier today after my commute to class, I checked the injector wire with the noid light again and it didn't work......I am officially confused.
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Intermittents will drive you crazy. I'd try finding both ends of that wire and putting in a temp jumper.
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Intermittents will drive you crazy. I'd try finding both ends of that wire and putting in a temp jumper.
I'm hoping that it's just electrical and nothing is actually wrong with the engine/cylinder.
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Intermittents will drive you crazy. I'd try finding both ends of that wire and putting in a temp jumper.
The issue is that its a dead miss, but the wire sometimes passes and fails the noid light test so I dont know
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Okay, heres where I stand right now. The jeep is constantly misfiring (cylinder 1). When I plug in the noid light to test the injector wire, it sometimes works and sometimes doesnt, but when it works, its still misfiring, so i'm not sure if there is something up with the computer or wire? I swapped injectors and nothing happened so I know the injector is good. After a drive when I test the wire it usually doesnt work (it has worked a few times though) and when it is working I can just stand there and sometimes it eventually turns off. I don't know what to do and its been 3 weeks now, someone please jump in and help me out before I pull the head off or valve cover
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...the wire sometimes passes and fails the noid light test
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When I plug in the noid light to test the injector wire, it sometimes works and sometimes doesnt, After a drive when I test the wire it usually doesnt work (it has worked a few times though)


Okay, one of us is thoroughly confused, and it might even be me.

What do you mean when you say the wire "works" or doesn't "work"? What exactly is happening, or not happening?


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and when it is working I can just stand there and sometimes it eventually turns off.
What turns off? The engine? The wire? The noid light?

I'm trying to understand why intermittent function of the wire to the injector would have you thinking about pulling the valve cover or head....

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Okay, one of us is thoroughly confused, and it might even be me.

What do you mean when you say the wire "works" or doesn't "work"? What is a "noid light"?




What turns off? The engine? The wire? The noid light?

I'm trying to understand why intermittent function of the wire to the injector would have you thinking about pulling the valve cover or head....
sure let me try to be clearer, i apologize. Noid light is a tiny light with the same connectors as the injector that you plug into the connector in place of the injector to make sure that its getting pulse or not. When I plug it in, the light turns on, meaning its getting pulse and all is good, and sometimes it's off, which means no pulse. However, regardless of pulse or not, its constantly misfiring. When I say turns off, I was referring to the noid light (no pulse)
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Okay, that's what I thought, but it wasn't really clear.

So, your problem is not under the valve cover, and it's not under the head.

You have an intermittent electrical problem. Focus on that.

If you get that 100% fixed, and there is still a problem, then it's time to start talking about pulling the valve cover or the head.

It's either the wiring harness leading to injector #1 (very likely) or it's the ECM.
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Okay, that's what I thought, but it wasn't really clear.

So, your problem is not under the valve cover, and it's not under the head.

You have an intermittent electrical problem. Focus on that.

If you get that 100% fixed, and there is still a problem, then it's time to start talking about pulling the valve cover or the head.

It's either the wiring harness leading to injector #1 (very likely) or it's the ECM.
Right, but my question was that even with this intermittent problem, the misfire is constant regardless of pulse or not. What do you think about that? Because I haven't got a clue
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Right, but my question was that even with this intermittent problem, the misfire is constant regardless of pulse or not. What do you think about that? Because I haven't got a clue

It's like peeling an onion. You take it one layer at a time. Solve the electrical problem. Forget about the other for now. Set it completely aside. Clear your mind of it.

Once you have the electrical problem solved, you may find that the electrical problem only gave the appearance of the other problem.

OR, it may be a real problem which will be easier to solve once you have the electrical problem solved.
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
It's like peeling an onion. You take it one layer at a time. Solve the electrical problem. Forget about the other for now. Set it completely aside. Clear your mind of it.

Once you have the electrical problem solved, you may find that the electrical problem only gave the appearance of the other problem.

OR, it may be a real problem which will be easier to solve once you have the electrical problem solved.
Yeah, I guess my only concern now is, if the computer is detecting a misfire and it is cutting power to that injector? Don't even know if possible

Will get crackin' tomorrow and update you
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Got a compression test, low on cylinder 1 and I don't know what the next step is



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